iJohnHenry
Mar 3, 05:39 PM
but he is doing what he wants with his life because it is... his life, and he seems to be making some pretty strong arguments.
Rock on
Interesting view.
It is true that Society seems to own each and every one of us, as soon as we are conceived.
Keep that nose to the grind-stone, and work till you die.
Oh, and no suicide attempts, please. We own your body, and we'll tell you when we are finished with it.
</devil's advocate>
More Sheen madness. Just slightly alarming.
"I was knocked unconscious and required medical attention, including a CAT scan."
I wonder if they found anything?? ;) Meow.
Rock on
Interesting view.
It is true that Society seems to own each and every one of us, as soon as we are conceived.
Keep that nose to the grind-stone, and work till you die.
Oh, and no suicide attempts, please. We own your body, and we'll tell you when we are finished with it.
</devil's advocate>
More Sheen madness. Just slightly alarming.
"I was knocked unconscious and required medical attention, including a CAT scan."
I wonder if they found anything?? ;) Meow.
HawaiiMacAddict
Apr 14, 03:49 AM
What if it's an actual Apple-branded TV? That's one of the latest rumors making the rounds, again :eek: Actually, if Apple did come out with their own HD (1080p) TV, I would be very interested in purchasing it. It would have TV built into it (of course), and therefore would be able to do everything TV can do, only without having to attach a set-top box to the TV. Additionally, since Apple is designing it, the new actual HDTV would be magical :D
I really don't see Apple making an HDTV, but I've been known to be wrong before (although I don't like to admit it :o).
I really don't see Apple making an HDTV, but I've been known to be wrong before (although I don't like to admit it :o).
twoodcc
Nov 21, 08:29 AM
that stats drop pissed me off, i hope those stats get reconciled at some point
Can't find ant update ad to when they will reinstate them...
yeah i know. i read that they would add them, but if they haven't by now, i don't think they will
Can't find ant update ad to when they will reinstate them...
yeah i know. i read that they would add them, but if they haven't by now, i don't think they will
smiddlehurst
May 3, 08:37 AM
And yet prices in the Australian Apple Store are still 25% higher than the USA Store. How rude, Apple.
Top end 27" iMac = US$1999, or in the Australian Store, AUD$2299 which at the current exchange rate is about US$2500. Why should we pay more, Apple? If anything, we're closer to China so should pay less on shipping!
Whilst it's slightly better than yesterdays prices, I'm still seriously not happy.
I'd buy one if we got the USA prices.
*sigh* Every time someone makes this mistake...
Bear in mind that the US prices do not include sales tax of any kind. In your case Australian prices include GST which I believe currently runs at 10%? If you're anything like the UK there may be additional import taxes to pay and the cost of doing business is likely to be higher (everything from shipping costs to salaries affect the price you pay at the checkout). Add in a margain that Apple will calculate to protect themselves from changes in the exchange rate and you'll probably be very close to price parity. Just as in the UK you're paying extra for the product because of the country, not because of Apple.
That's not to say Apple DON'T screw up on exchange rates and gouge the heck out of us non-Americans of course. The Mac Mini being the most recent, and painful, example. But you need to make sure you compare like for like before complaining.
Top end 27" iMac = US$1999, or in the Australian Store, AUD$2299 which at the current exchange rate is about US$2500. Why should we pay more, Apple? If anything, we're closer to China so should pay less on shipping!
Whilst it's slightly better than yesterdays prices, I'm still seriously not happy.
I'd buy one if we got the USA prices.
*sigh* Every time someone makes this mistake...
Bear in mind that the US prices do not include sales tax of any kind. In your case Australian prices include GST which I believe currently runs at 10%? If you're anything like the UK there may be additional import taxes to pay and the cost of doing business is likely to be higher (everything from shipping costs to salaries affect the price you pay at the checkout). Add in a margain that Apple will calculate to protect themselves from changes in the exchange rate and you'll probably be very close to price parity. Just as in the UK you're paying extra for the product because of the country, not because of Apple.
That's not to say Apple DON'T screw up on exchange rates and gouge the heck out of us non-Americans of course. The Mac Mini being the most recent, and painful, example. But you need to make sure you compare like for like before complaining.
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tny
Dec 1, 07:59 PM
No, that is not Adware. Adware is a program that is installed *on your computer*, so it can launch windows whenever it wants.
I think he's saying that LimeWire is opening the popups when no browser window is open. That's not "adware" in the sense in which we're talking about, which is a hidden background program that opens browser windows randomly no matter what application you're running.
I think he's saying that LimeWire is opening the popups when no browser window is open. That's not "adware" in the sense in which we're talking about, which is a hidden background program that opens browser windows randomly no matter what application you're running.
CJM
May 3, 07:58 AM
They're still using this piece of marketing on the iMac page:
The iMac display looks great from any seat in the house, thanks to a premium display technology called in-plane switching (IPS). IPS gives you a bright picture with excellent color — even if you’re viewing the display from the side.
EDIT: Lots of people beat me; irrelevant post.
The iMac display looks great from any seat in the house, thanks to a premium display technology called in-plane switching (IPS). IPS gives you a bright picture with excellent color — even if you’re viewing the display from the side.
EDIT: Lots of people beat me; irrelevant post.
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LT1FirebirdSLP
May 4, 06:31 AM
Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.........
...take anything an AT&T rep says at face value. This is coming from a type of representative, where in my battles earlier this year with AT&T attempting to get back to unlimited data, who told me there was nothing they could do but gave me advice on how to seamlessly switch to Verizon (including how to port my phone number and suggested I keep my AT&T account open until I switch to VZ).
While I fully believe this story did actually take place, I believe the rep has 'ZERO' credibility.
FYI: My later wrangling with corporate was a lot more pleasant and yielded me my Unlimited iPhone data plan back.
...take anything an AT&T rep says at face value. This is coming from a type of representative, where in my battles earlier this year with AT&T attempting to get back to unlimited data, who told me there was nothing they could do but gave me advice on how to seamlessly switch to Verizon (including how to port my phone number and suggested I keep my AT&T account open until I switch to VZ).
While I fully believe this story did actually take place, I believe the rep has 'ZERO' credibility.
FYI: My later wrangling with corporate was a lot more pleasant and yielded me my Unlimited iPhone data plan back.
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 11:55 AM
By the way - openstep is an evolution of nextstep when next went "open source". it may of been put of the GNU license,
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
Lastly, the Minix kernel came from Posix. So the path Posix->Minix->Linux is valid.
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU see source link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
BTW - No part of MacOSX is distributed under GNU licensing...
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
GNU evolved into a foundation
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to develop the GNU operating system, a complete Unix-like operating system which is free software—software which respects your freedom.
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
What we do :
...
We drive development of the GNU operating system and maintain a list of high-priority free software projects to promote replacements for common proprietary applications.
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
Lastly, the Minix kernel came from Posix. So the path Posix->Minix->Linux is valid.
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU see source link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
BTW - No part of MacOSX is distributed under GNU licensing...
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
GNU evolved into a foundation
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to develop the GNU operating system, a complete Unix-like operating system which is free software—software which respects your freedom.
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
What we do :
...
We drive development of the GNU operating system and maintain a list of high-priority free software projects to promote replacements for common proprietary applications.
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
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RacerX
Dec 2, 03:20 AM
People, the single worst thing that the Mac community faces in the area of security is upon us right now...
Little security experts who cry exploit.
Thanks to the media jumping at anything that looks like it could be a security problem with Mac OS X, we now have security experts who are willing to make half-baked claims to draw attention to themselves. But even more frightening is the fact that the Mac community isn't a target because it is a good target or an easy target... no, we are a target because it is the most notable target these days.
So, how do we fix this?
Frankly, I don't know.
The security experts are going to call anyone who questions their work names, and they seem bent on avoiding any consultation with real Mac experts before issuing press releases. I would have thought that these types of Pons & Fleischmann tactics would have died out on their own, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Part of the problem is that erroneous reports aren't being covered as widely as the initial claims.
The other problem is that even after real, working exploits start showing up in the wild, we are a long ways off from being anywhere near where the Windows community is today. In fact, we'd be a long ways off from where the Mac community was at the peak of it's virus period (how many here actually recall those days?).
The only thing I can suggest (which I doubt anyone will follow) is to avoid the hysteria. When a real threat emerges, you'll most likely hear about it long before you are actually in any danger from it.
Little security experts who cry exploit.
Thanks to the media jumping at anything that looks like it could be a security problem with Mac OS X, we now have security experts who are willing to make half-baked claims to draw attention to themselves. But even more frightening is the fact that the Mac community isn't a target because it is a good target or an easy target... no, we are a target because it is the most notable target these days.
So, how do we fix this?
Frankly, I don't know.
The security experts are going to call anyone who questions their work names, and they seem bent on avoiding any consultation with real Mac experts before issuing press releases. I would have thought that these types of Pons & Fleischmann tactics would have died out on their own, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Part of the problem is that erroneous reports aren't being covered as widely as the initial claims.
The other problem is that even after real, working exploits start showing up in the wild, we are a long ways off from being anywhere near where the Windows community is today. In fact, we'd be a long ways off from where the Mac community was at the peak of it's virus period (how many here actually recall those days?).
The only thing I can suggest (which I doubt anyone will follow) is to avoid the hysteria. When a real threat emerges, you'll most likely hear about it long before you are actually in any danger from it.
twoodcc
Oct 27, 08:43 AM
If you only have 4 cores and I have 8 that isn't very much of a difference even taking into account the mhz discrepency. It might be worth trying to see if my 920 would be ok at stock speed with bigadv units.
well at stock speed it takes my 920 about 43 min per frame. Not bad, but I think that barely gets a bonus. But it is definitely worth it though
well at stock speed it takes my 920 about 43 min per frame. Not bad, but I think that barely gets a bonus. But it is definitely worth it though
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commander.data
May 3, 08:48 AM
Not sure if anyone noticed this but while trying to price one, I noticed that the 21" model can't be maxed to 16gb as their page says.... :mad:
That was the case for the previous 21.5" too. The smaller enclosure can only fit 2 DIMM slots while the larger 27" can fit 4 DIMM slots.
That was the case for the previous 21.5" too. The smaller enclosure can only fit 2 DIMM slots while the larger 27" can fit 4 DIMM slots.
Jason Beck
Apr 12, 05:58 AM
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/101/3/4/buds_2_by_jasonbeck-d3dsp1n.jpg
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Danindub
Jun 6, 11:19 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)
How do you request a refund? Who do you contact?
iTunes > My account > Account history (find app you want to report) > Report a problem
(or something similar anyways).
Now that I think about it - it could be EU thing - AFAIK by law there has to be a way to get refund ...
How do you request a refund? Who do you contact?
iTunes > My account > Account history (find app you want to report) > Report a problem
(or something similar anyways).
Now that I think about it - it could be EU thing - AFAIK by law there has to be a way to get refund ...
SPUY767
Oct 24, 08:49 AM
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=A2AF143F&nplm=MA598Z%2FA
Flight charger adaptor added
You're not the designer of the latest generation of BMW's are you, cause I've got a bone to pick with you. :)
Flight charger adaptor added
You're not the designer of the latest generation of BMW's are you, cause I've got a bone to pick with you. :)
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Corey Grandy
Jan 29, 09:21 PM
http://www.beats-headphone.com/images/beats-by-dre-solo.png
Already had Seasons 1-6, 8 & 9. Just in case anyone wonders why I picked up 7, 10 & 11.
http://download-er-episodes.edogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/er_season_7.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/ER_Season_10_DVD_Cover.jpg/256px-ER_Season_10_DVD_Cover.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/ER_Season_11_DVD_cover.jpg/256px-ER_Season_11_DVD_cover.jpg
Couldn't resist two good movies.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00275EHC8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://www.technofile.com/images/bd/walk_the_line.jpg
Pre-ordered this, even law students love Pok�mon :)
http://www.vooks.net/images/PokemonBlackESRB.jpg
Already had Seasons 1-6, 8 & 9. Just in case anyone wonders why I picked up 7, 10 & 11.
http://download-er-episodes.edogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/er_season_7.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/ER_Season_10_DVD_Cover.jpg/256px-ER_Season_10_DVD_Cover.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/ER_Season_11_DVD_cover.jpg/256px-ER_Season_11_DVD_cover.jpg
Couldn't resist two good movies.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00275EHC8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://www.technofile.com/images/bd/walk_the_line.jpg
Pre-ordered this, even law students love Pok�mon :)
http://www.vooks.net/images/PokemonBlackESRB.jpg
NativeOSXboy
Apr 22, 09:31 AM
It's interesting how many people blast Apple. They completely retooled the smart phone/mobile phone platform.
I really enjoy Apple products, and have since 1996. They always just work, sure the hardware at times can get dated between updates; but things still just work. Is Apple greedy? No they are like any company, they want to make a profit.
But it is not Apple's fault that so many companies are playing catch-up. Those companies that are playing catch-up are the truly greedy ones. They thought they could continue to pass off mediocre products and consumers would continue to purchase them. They spent no money on design, r and d, and many other aspects that make a product great. So they let Apple simply slide into the market and grab up market share. Ehhh...it's no conspiracy, these companies just didn't keep their eye on the ball.
Maybe some of the folks on here should be happy that Apple has become mainstream. Apple gave geeks everywhere the ability to have something in common to talk about with that hot chick at the coffee shop using an iPhone or Macbook. Sorry just trying to throw a positive in there.
I really enjoy Apple products, and have since 1996. They always just work, sure the hardware at times can get dated between updates; but things still just work. Is Apple greedy? No they are like any company, they want to make a profit.
But it is not Apple's fault that so many companies are playing catch-up. Those companies that are playing catch-up are the truly greedy ones. They thought they could continue to pass off mediocre products and consumers would continue to purchase them. They spent no money on design, r and d, and many other aspects that make a product great. So they let Apple simply slide into the market and grab up market share. Ehhh...it's no conspiracy, these companies just didn't keep their eye on the ball.
Maybe some of the folks on here should be happy that Apple has become mainstream. Apple gave geeks everywhere the ability to have something in common to talk about with that hot chick at the coffee shop using an iPhone or Macbook. Sorry just trying to throw a positive in there.
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rezenclowd3
Sep 14, 02:52 AM
About a LinkinPark's new CD..it's good..but who buys cd's nowadays?
Disagree about the LP album being even close to good, but I stated that before:rolleyes:
CD's? That's still just about all I purchase, beside my vinyl collection:D I want a physical copy for everything, and I like to have the artwork, AND get it signed by the artist when I see them live. I also get the ticket and place it behind the CD holder in the case. With my Genelec 1030A's I can tell if it's an MP3 or not:p Now where did the sweet spot between my speakers go again:rolleyes:
Disagree about the LP album being even close to good, but I stated that before:rolleyes:
CD's? That's still just about all I purchase, beside my vinyl collection:D I want a physical copy for everything, and I like to have the artwork, AND get it signed by the artist when I see them live. I also get the ticket and place it behind the CD holder in the case. With my Genelec 1030A's I can tell if it's an MP3 or not:p Now where did the sweet spot between my speakers go again:rolleyes:
antpod
Apr 13, 11:26 PM
FINALLY. I decided to either wait for this or the iP5, whichever came first. eff yeah finally! My 3GS broke in January and i've decided to be phoneless for a couple months as an experiment on myself and im soooooooo ready to have a phone again.
mccldwll
Apr 29, 06:41 AM
Ok, that works if you are thinking of getting a cellphone vs. not getting a cellphone.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
...........
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Carriers love consumers who think like you do. It's how they are able to lock people into contracts and get rid of crappy phones--make them believe that getting a POS andrrhoid for free is such a wonderful deal compared to paying $200 for an iPhone 4 (forget the fact that that they'll be stuck with a piece of junk for a long time, suffering with poor support and function, and stuck with something completely worthless at the end, all because advertisers dangle bright, shiny objects in front of their eyes and let them believe they're saving so much in the beginning).
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
...........
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Carriers love consumers who think like you do. It's how they are able to lock people into contracts and get rid of crappy phones--make them believe that getting a POS andrrhoid for free is such a wonderful deal compared to paying $200 for an iPhone 4 (forget the fact that that they'll be stuck with a piece of junk for a long time, suffering with poor support and function, and stuck with something completely worthless at the end, all because advertisers dangle bright, shiny objects in front of their eyes and let them believe they're saving so much in the beginning).
dexthageek
Apr 14, 08:31 AM
What will Apple offer that other manufactures can't?
A robust and thriving App Store.
The App Store will legitimize the Apple TV set.
I would go so far as to suggest the reason we don't have an App Store on the current Apple TV is because Apple is saving it as the compelling reason to buy an entire TV set.
Apple doesn't have to provide the reasons to buy the Apple TV set. Developers will do that for them. In the hundreds of thousands.
Pretty soon you won't be switching channels. You'll be switching apps.
My 2 cents.
Apple already has the ability to provide this by using :apple:TV2. Even when priced at $99 Apple is making money on each unit sold. And a software update can easily add support for iOS apps. I simply do not see Apple releasing their own Television when they can simply offer a new service on existing devices.
A robust and thriving App Store.
The App Store will legitimize the Apple TV set.
I would go so far as to suggest the reason we don't have an App Store on the current Apple TV is because Apple is saving it as the compelling reason to buy an entire TV set.
Apple doesn't have to provide the reasons to buy the Apple TV set. Developers will do that for them. In the hundreds of thousands.
Pretty soon you won't be switching channels. You'll be switching apps.
My 2 cents.
Apple already has the ability to provide this by using :apple:TV2. Even when priced at $99 Apple is making money on each unit sold. And a software update can easily add support for iOS apps. I simply do not see Apple releasing their own Television when they can simply offer a new service on existing devices.
mlovergaard
Jan 28, 03:37 PM
My latest purchase, looking forward to testing it.
http://regmedia.co.uk/2010/09/15/gopro_hd_hero_2.jpg
http://regmedia.co.uk/2010/09/15/gopro_hd_hero_2.jpg
pcb
Nov 8, 07:21 PM
This downhill longboard deck (Landyachtz Evo):
http://www.xtreme-adrenaline.com/itemimages/Landyachtz-Evo-Complete1.jpg
Hello 50MPH+ :D
Hello broken bones and doctor bills:D
http://www.xtreme-adrenaline.com/itemimages/Landyachtz-Evo-Complete1.jpg
Hello 50MPH+ :D
Hello broken bones and doctor bills:D
cal6n
Apr 24, 07:07 AM
No surprise that Apple are developing an iphone suitable for T-Mobile and other carriers that use the same spectrum. It is only AT&T's exclusivity that's held them back so long. And it's only that exclusivity that's held them back from offering unsubsidised, unlocked iPhones in their stores. The iPhone will be 4 years old in June. maybe AT&T's stranglehold is coming to an end.
If you want to see an iPhone ecosystem to Apple's liking you need to look at the UK, where O2 only had exclusivity for 2 years. Within months, every major network and most of the minor ones started to offer the iPhone. Now even the chav (that probably translates best as "trailer-trash") supermarket network of choice, Tesco, sells it. Competition keeps the prices lowish, but not as low as the junk android handsets and Apple sells unlocked iPhones at full price for those of us with cheap SIM-only plans.
If you want to see an iPhone ecosystem to Apple's liking you need to look at the UK, where O2 only had exclusivity for 2 years. Within months, every major network and most of the minor ones started to offer the iPhone. Now even the chav (that probably translates best as "trailer-trash") supermarket network of choice, Tesco, sells it. Competition keeps the prices lowish, but not as low as the junk android handsets and Apple sells unlocked iPhones at full price for those of us with cheap SIM-only plans.
kiljoy616
Mar 31, 03:54 PM
I kind of like but does this also mean fragmentation again of the interface? :rolleyes:
I rather have a consistant look an feel or if not then allowing for all Applications to have this which personally I rather not, give me boring but functional look.
Ripped paper ROFL like I will think its real on a laptop or a 27 inch monitor.
Make it clean Apple and functional leave all that play stuff for MS Windows.
I rather have a consistant look an feel or if not then allowing for all Applications to have this which personally I rather not, give me boring but functional look.
Ripped paper ROFL like I will think its real on a laptop or a 27 inch monitor.
Make it clean Apple and functional leave all that play stuff for MS Windows.
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