network23
Jul 25, 11:16 AM
What you're describing is far less revolutionary, and wouldn't really constitute a none-touch interface. The current displays all have a durable, transparent cover over them, and they still get scratches and finger prints from handling. I think the reason that this interface idea is so exciting is that it offers the possibility of having a full screen for viewing without needing to worry about the act of touching the screen for controls making the screen dirty so you can't watch.
Snowy,
I do think hayesk is on the right track. While the idea of a touchless experience is neat, try it right now. pick up your iPod and make movements over the surface as if it would be touchless. If you don't have an iPod, pick up something else approximately that size. Assume that the "field" where it senses your fingers is going to be less than a centimeter above the surface.
What happened?
If you were like me, you still occasionally brushed or accidentally touched the surface anyway, especially making circular scrollwheel movements. You didn't? I applaud your superior fine motor skills. Now try that same excersise while driving. Or jogging. Bet it was harder.
Heck, even just holding the thing in your hand or pulling it out of your pocket will get fingerprints on it and be touched. Touching the surface will be unavoidable. But what Apple can do with this technology is give it a thicker, more substantial, more scratch-resistant, possibly more smudge resistant surface on which the user can touch and interact with the UI.
Snowy,
I do think hayesk is on the right track. While the idea of a touchless experience is neat, try it right now. pick up your iPod and make movements over the surface as if it would be touchless. If you don't have an iPod, pick up something else approximately that size. Assume that the "field" where it senses your fingers is going to be less than a centimeter above the surface.
What happened?
If you were like me, you still occasionally brushed or accidentally touched the surface anyway, especially making circular scrollwheel movements. You didn't? I applaud your superior fine motor skills. Now try that same excersise while driving. Or jogging. Bet it was harder.
Heck, even just holding the thing in your hand or pulling it out of your pocket will get fingerprints on it and be touched. Touching the surface will be unavoidable. But what Apple can do with this technology is give it a thicker, more substantial, more scratch-resistant, possibly more smudge resistant surface on which the user can touch and interact with the UI.
mc68k
Nov 24, 07:40 PM
Good, maybe we can get back ahead of club lexus, again. Then again that means I might not catch up to you in a year...
haha here's hoping ;)
yeah team lexus should be in the rearview mirror soon
haha here's hoping ;)
yeah team lexus should be in the rearview mirror soon
doctorossi
Apr 14, 01:07 PM
When is the Verizon iPhone going to get the 4.3 love?
I doubt it will. I'm expecting parity to arrive with 5.0.
I doubt it will. I'm expecting parity to arrive with 5.0.
nealibob
Apr 23, 07:13 PM
I am sure there are Sprint iPhones ready to go also.
The "Verizon" iPhone is exactly the same hardware as would be used with Sprint. You could actually use one on Sprint's network today if they allowed you to activate non-Sprint devices. AFAIK, they still do not allow that, which really is a shame. With their new GV features and relatively reasonable prices, I would gladly buy a CDMA iPhone and use it on Sprint.
The "Verizon" iPhone is exactly the same hardware as would be used with Sprint. You could actually use one on Sprint's network today if they allowed you to activate non-Sprint devices. AFAIK, they still do not allow that, which really is a shame. With their new GV features and relatively reasonable prices, I would gladly buy a CDMA iPhone and use it on Sprint.
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crees!
Dec 1, 03:41 PM
It has been brought to attention that Apple is encrypting certain parts of the OS kernel. Does this have any bearing in this discussion or it is only to make piracy of the OS more difficult?
peapody
Sep 12, 06:14 PM
Following the trend and tradition of our favorite series of threads...the "post your last purchase" threads, welcome to edition XIV!
Starting this off right! Links for Mods and other interested parties!
Post your last purchase (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=406860)
Post your last purchase II (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=450221)
Post your last purchase III (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=494787)
Post your last purchase IV (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=547632)
Post your last purchase V (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=591242)
Post your last purchase VI (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=631447)
Post your last purchase VII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=672226)
Post your last purchase VIII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=672226)
Post your last purchase IX (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=765588)
Post your last purchase X (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=805111)
Post your last purchase XI (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=842754)
Post your last purchase XII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=884344&highlight=post+your+last+purchase+xii)
Post your last purchase XIII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=944269&highlight=post+your+last+purchase+xii)
Go ahead and post your last purchase, and apparently original pictures are encouraged so we can see what you got!
And here my last purchase: Shaken green tea lemonade - I quit buying coffee from starbucks to reduce my sugar intake but I needed something to get from the coffee shop!
Starting this off right! Links for Mods and other interested parties!
Post your last purchase (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=406860)
Post your last purchase II (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=450221)
Post your last purchase III (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=494787)
Post your last purchase IV (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=547632)
Post your last purchase V (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=591242)
Post your last purchase VI (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=631447)
Post your last purchase VII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=672226)
Post your last purchase VIII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=672226)
Post your last purchase IX (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=765588)
Post your last purchase X (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=805111)
Post your last purchase XI (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=842754)
Post your last purchase XII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=884344&highlight=post+your+last+purchase+xii)
Post your last purchase XIII (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=944269&highlight=post+your+last+purchase+xii)
Go ahead and post your last purchase, and apparently original pictures are encouraged so we can see what you got!
And here my last purchase: Shaken green tea lemonade - I quit buying coffee from starbucks to reduce my sugar intake but I needed something to get from the coffee shop!
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charpi
Apr 20, 10:40 AM
I believe that I have posted it on some other thread but I'll post it here just for fun.
Not sure if it is too feasible, just throwing possibilities.
MBA + Backlit(Or not, I don't really mind) + Thunderbolt + Sandy Bridge
And an external GPU connected by Thunderbolt if people needs it.
Not sure if it is too feasible, just throwing possibilities.
MBA + Backlit(Or not, I don't really mind) + Thunderbolt + Sandy Bridge
And an external GPU connected by Thunderbolt if people needs it.
cmaier
Apr 22, 01:01 PM
Two companies I really don't care for.
Apple makes some sweet hardware (hence I visit this site) but they seriously lack in the software programming and ethical department.
What has apple done that is unethical?
Apple makes some sweet hardware (hence I visit this site) but they seriously lack in the software programming and ethical department.
What has apple done that is unethical?
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MarximusMG
Apr 13, 07:50 PM
Anyone actually planning on buying this? Especially with a refresh right around the corner?
Have you been reading the recent rumors regarding the next iPhone release? That's the whole point of releasing the white iPhone 4 now, IMO. It's tying people over until iPhone 5, which will almost definitely not see the light of day at WWDC.
Have you been reading the recent rumors regarding the next iPhone release? That's the whole point of releasing the white iPhone 4 now, IMO. It's tying people over until iPhone 5, which will almost definitely not see the light of day at WWDC.
Ish
Apr 14, 03:41 AM
http://gallery.me.com/pdibona/100093/IMG_2574/web.jpg
Nice! Is this a French market stall? If it is, a lot of care has been taken to lay out the bars of soap attractively when you think it's all taken down at the end of the day. There were some good photo opportunities at the market in St R�my if you get the chance.
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5368/wtr4.jpg
Another beautiful photo, Reef. Love the colours and look of your pics.
Harry the Herdwick says "Hi"...
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1413/herdwick.jpg
He's cute! "If I hide behind this fern, no-one will see me!"
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5602406920_26abc70521_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602406920/in/photostream)
Ah, late Spring flowers! I love irises. You've got the focus spot on in the throat. Your season's a bit ahead of ours, unless you're growing them somewhere very sheltered.
Nice! Is this a French market stall? If it is, a lot of care has been taken to lay out the bars of soap attractively when you think it's all taken down at the end of the day. There were some good photo opportunities at the market in St R�my if you get the chance.
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5368/wtr4.jpg
Another beautiful photo, Reef. Love the colours and look of your pics.
Harry the Herdwick says "Hi"...
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1413/herdwick.jpg
He's cute! "If I hide behind this fern, no-one will see me!"
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5602406920_26abc70521_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602406920/in/photostream)
Ah, late Spring flowers! I love irises. You've got the focus spot on in the throat. Your season's a bit ahead of ours, unless you're growing them somewhere very sheltered.
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Tonezorz
May 4, 09:34 AM
This post makes zero sense, and neither did your original claims.
Care to elaborate? I realize I haven't had my coffee yet but makes sense on this end.
Never been suspended for non-payment.
Dropped a $10/month third line from plan ~ 6 months ago.
Although, now that I'm waking up more, I did lower my rate plan as well a few months ago. The 2 of us weren't using 1400 minutes anymore, so we went down to 550. This must be the cause of it.
Care to elaborate? I realize I haven't had my coffee yet but makes sense on this end.
Never been suspended for non-payment.
Dropped a $10/month third line from plan ~ 6 months ago.
Although, now that I'm waking up more, I did lower my rate plan as well a few months ago. The 2 of us weren't using 1400 minutes anymore, so we went down to 550. This must be the cause of it.
7on
Jul 25, 08:21 AM
I would like one, maybe convince my mom to buy me one... I'll give her my old 1-buttoner :-p
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paradox00
Apr 13, 02:15 PM
Not this year but soon.
Airplay enabled TV has always been Apple's dream and this is going to be very big for Apple.
The perfect entertainment solution. It's coming soon.
Easily licensed to existing TV manufacturers.
Airplay enabled TV has always been Apple's dream and this is going to be very big for Apple.
The perfect entertainment solution. It's coming soon.
Easily licensed to existing TV manufacturers.
MikeDTyke
Mar 29, 08:12 AM
well if its $129 then people would just pay $99 for the mac developer program and get it $30 cheaper
$79 or less
You don't get final versions of the software they release in the dev program.
The Gold master will not get software updates post release date.
$79 or less
You don't get final versions of the software they release in the dev program.
The Gold master will not get software updates post release date.
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Dagless
Apr 28, 07:04 AM
The wait is killing me! I'm sitting here working on my old model trying to develop a shader heavy action game, I'll need to record footage for a trailer soon and I don't think my iMac will be able to handle it. Come on May the 3rd!
Seriously, why not an Imac with touch-screen right now? Will we need to wait for the next iMac update to see this technology implemented?
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
Touchscreen computers are terrible. I used to do design work for a company that sold them. Computers in their current form do not work well as touchscreens. They even gave me a large touchscreen display as a gift... great display, terrible arm pain!
Leave touchscreens where they work - portable devices. The mouse is so much more precise, comfortable and cheaper.
Seriously, why not an Imac with touch-screen right now? Will we need to wait for the next iMac update to see this technology implemented?
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
Touchscreen computers are terrible. I used to do design work for a company that sold them. Computers in their current form do not work well as touchscreens. They even gave me a large touchscreen display as a gift... great display, terrible arm pain!
Leave touchscreens where they work - portable devices. The mouse is so much more precise, comfortable and cheaper.
dethmaShine
Apr 22, 05:57 AM
yes I agree the hands in both those pictures look extremely similar.
I am going to have to side with Samsung on this; apple stole their hand.
As far as the phones go? the looks are similar but still different looking.
->
The dates are wrong as the F700 was unveiled after Apple announced the iPhone at MacWorld in 2007
I am going to have to side with Samsung on this; apple stole their hand.
As far as the phones go? the looks are similar but still different looking.
->
The dates are wrong as the F700 was unveiled after Apple announced the iPhone at MacWorld in 2007
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aegisdesign
Aug 16, 07:32 AM
It's still the same story. The icons are still distinctive and easily identified by their outline, as per interface guidelines. The fact that they're on a consistent and unified "button bar" or "bubble" is simply an aesthetic decision. Safari and the Finder have worked in this fashion since the beginning and no one threw the "HIG book" at Apple for that.
Oh yes they have.
Safari was the biggest abuse of the Metal UI going until they added it to Finder too. Metal is right for Quicktime, DVD Player and at a push iTunes if a little dated now.
Adding the Mail style buttons in Preview is just plain wrong, ugly, stupid, bad. If they do that OS wide, I'm skipping the upgrade until someone comes out with a tool like CageFighter to change the icons back like we got for Mail in Panther. If they persist with Aqua, Metal, Unified, Dark Unified and lord knows what else, I'm waiting for a port of UNO to Leopard. UNO has massively improved Tiger by banishing the metal and aqua stripes.
Also, the sidebar is a retrograde step too. The drawer in Preview can be resized without changing the size of the content in the main window. You can't do that with a sidebar. It's also white, unlike Mail's light blue. Wrong, wrong, bad, ugly, inconsistent and stupid.
They seem to be throwing out good UI design and entire elements of OSX just for the sake of something new to show.
Oh yes they have.
Safari was the biggest abuse of the Metal UI going until they added it to Finder too. Metal is right for Quicktime, DVD Player and at a push iTunes if a little dated now.
Adding the Mail style buttons in Preview is just plain wrong, ugly, stupid, bad. If they do that OS wide, I'm skipping the upgrade until someone comes out with a tool like CageFighter to change the icons back like we got for Mail in Panther. If they persist with Aqua, Metal, Unified, Dark Unified and lord knows what else, I'm waiting for a port of UNO to Leopard. UNO has massively improved Tiger by banishing the metal and aqua stripes.
Also, the sidebar is a retrograde step too. The drawer in Preview can be resized without changing the size of the content in the main window. You can't do that with a sidebar. It's also white, unlike Mail's light blue. Wrong, wrong, bad, ugly, inconsistent and stupid.
They seem to be throwing out good UI design and entire elements of OSX just for the sake of something new to show.
prostuff1
Oct 23, 09:31 AM
Boot Camp is not virtualization, by any definition. (And no, there's no way Microsoft or anyone else could argue that it is.)
I know that Bootcamp is not virtualization. What i am saying is that to run the OS in Bootcamp and a copy in parallels (legally) you would need to by the business or premium edition (or whatever they are called).
I know that Bootcamp is not virtualization. What i am saying is that to run the OS in Bootcamp and a copy in parallels (legally) you would need to by the business or premium edition (or whatever they are called).
TheDrift-
Apr 9, 10:43 AM
A lovely day in Lincolnshire, C & C Welcome
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5603743528_9b6abcc6e0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52607317@N04/5603743528/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5603743528_9b6abcc6e0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52607317@N04/5603743528/)
Jason Beck
Apr 14, 12:54 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljnlmpcZmQ1qi6pxoo1_400.jpg
Mad puppy! (handheld spontaneous, 50mm prime on crop so sorry bout the ears)
Mad puppy! (handheld spontaneous, 50mm prime on crop so sorry bout the ears)
playaj82
Jul 26, 01:20 PM
Has anybody thought these might all just be preventative filings?
Apple is smart to file a patent on something that might be "similar" to technology they have developed just to maintain their exclusivity of the technology.
Apple might be filing this just so they can say, haha, Microsoft, you can't produce this because we invented it first....and then Apple moves on to the next big thing without ever producing a product based on the patent.
As far as the trademark stuff goes, it is the same logic. Apple needs to protect as many derivations of the "*Pod" mark in order to make their Pod trademarks even stronger. Apple will probably never produce something with the "doPod" trademark, but any other company thinking about naming their product the "doPod" will think twice before getting into a legal battle with Apple, who has one of the most recognized digital entertainment trademarks in the world.
You can show me Patent and Trademark filings all day long and I will simply reply with a "prove it"
Apple is smart to file a patent on something that might be "similar" to technology they have developed just to maintain their exclusivity of the technology.
Apple might be filing this just so they can say, haha, Microsoft, you can't produce this because we invented it first....and then Apple moves on to the next big thing without ever producing a product based on the patent.
As far as the trademark stuff goes, it is the same logic. Apple needs to protect as many derivations of the "*Pod" mark in order to make their Pod trademarks even stronger. Apple will probably never produce something with the "doPod" trademark, but any other company thinking about naming their product the "doPod" will think twice before getting into a legal battle with Apple, who has one of the most recognized digital entertainment trademarks in the world.
You can show me Patent and Trademark filings all day long and I will simply reply with a "prove it"
AZREOSpecialist
Apr 13, 02:45 PM
Apple can't keep up with iPad production, you think they are going to be able to properly build and sell (in volume) a TV? Dream on. Apple doesn't have the infrastructure to not only sell something like this, but service it as well.
The analyst wanted news so he resurrected a long dead rumor. This is not going to happen. What a joke.
The analyst wanted news so he resurrected a long dead rumor. This is not going to happen. What a joke.
JFreak
Jul 11, 01:10 AM
As a frequent user of Pages 2, I would like more toolbars and less of the 'inspector' stuff, which to me is not as convenient.
Oh my god, I hope Apple doesn't listen to you :)
Oh my god, I hope Apple doesn't listen to you :)
Mac-Mariachi
Apr 13, 07:47 PM
Yes, white is beautiful, but I think it has to come with, at least, a small upgrade to make up for the late arrival. Perhaps 1GB of RAM or a bump in processor speed. I�ll consider it then, if it�s just a white iPhone 4 then I think I�ll wait for iPhone 5... although it looks sexy as hell in white.
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